Comments on: Interview with the OAF ! (The worst law interview ever) http://joblesslawyer.com/interview-with-the-oaf-the-worst-law-interview-ever/ The Tales of a Young Lawyer's Futile Job Quest Sat, 10 Mar 2012 05:03:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Sarah Patton http://joblesslawyer.com/interview-with-the-oaf-the-worst-law-interview-ever/comment-page-1/#comment-1202 Sarah Patton Sat, 10 Mar 2012 05:03:00 +0000 http://joblesslawyer.com/?p=262#comment-1202 I love this web site, I found it on Bing and I think I will keep coming back eventually, it very helpful for me. Thanks I love this web site, I found it on Bing and I think I will keep coming back eventually, it very helpful for me. Thanks

]]> By: Jane Deas http://joblesslawyer.com/interview-with-the-oaf-the-worst-law-interview-ever/comment-page-1/#comment-919 Jane Deas Fri, 22 Jul 2011 10:37:00 +0000 http://joblesslawyer.com/?p=262#comment-919 This is my first time I have visited this site. I found a lot of interesting stuff in your blog. This is my first time I have visited this site. I found a lot of interesting stuff in your blog.

]]> By: Mold Removal Fremont http://joblesslawyer.com/interview-with-the-oaf-the-worst-law-interview-ever/comment-page-1/#comment-488 Mold Removal Fremont Tue, 07 Dec 2010 10:28:00 +0000 http://joblesslawyer.com/?p=262#comment-488 Fascinating. Fascinating.

]]> By: Concrete Services http://joblesslawyer.com/interview-with-the-oaf-the-worst-law-interview-ever/comment-page-1/#comment-487 Concrete Services Sat, 04 Dec 2010 09:41:00 +0000 http://joblesslawyer.com/?p=262#comment-487 I also believed that if the person reviewing the applications truly only wanted to consider applicants who were admitted to Federal Court I also believed that if the person reviewing the applications truly only wanted to consider applicants who were admitted to Federal Court

]]> By: Marble Floor Cleaning http://joblesslawyer.com/interview-with-the-oaf-the-worst-law-interview-ever/comment-page-1/#comment-452 Marble Floor Cleaning Wed, 03 Nov 2010 07:26:57 +0000 http://joblesslawyer.com/?p=262#comment-452 Of all the legal interviews being conducted in all the law offices across New York City, the real “winners” somehow have a way of finding me. Of all the legal interviews being conducted in all the law offices across New York City, the real “winners” somehow have a way of finding me.

]]> By: Marble Floor Cleaning http://joblesslawyer.com/interview-with-the-oaf-the-worst-law-interview-ever/comment-page-1/#comment-444 Marble Floor Cleaning Fri, 22 Oct 2010 07:58:02 +0000 http://joblesslawyer.com/?p=262#comment-444 Interview with the OAF ! (The worst law interview ever)!! Loved reding the article! Thanks for the post!! Interview with the OAF ! (The worst law interview ever)!! Loved reding the article! Thanks for the post!!

]]> By: Anon http://joblesslawyer.com/interview-with-the-oaf-the-worst-law-interview-ever/comment-page-1/#comment-322 Anon Thu, 11 Mar 2010 17:24:18 +0000 http://joblesslawyer.com/?p=262#comment-322 I think I know EXACTLY who you are talking about. I interviewed with him in 2008 and had a very similar experience. He spent most of the "interview" ignoring me and doing work or screaming at his poor secretary to bring him documents (which she had to remind him were already on his desk). At one point he asked me to go locate his intern and bring the intern to his office. He then returned to ignoring me and yelled at the poor intern. Eventually he got around to reviewing my 20-page writing sample in 15 seconds, concluding, "this makes sense. I like it." Fortunately, I got an offer from a different firm a couple days later, so I didn't have to pursue that "opportunity" any further. Unfortunately, I lost that job in Sept. and haven't had the slightest bit of luck since then. I guess he must have burned through whatever poor chump did take the job, since I started seeing his want ads around the time of your post. One other thing of interest: It came out during my interview that, while he may do IP cases, and advertises the job that way, his associate actually does little but personal injury cases. I think I know EXACTLY who you are talking about. I interviewed with him in 2008 and had a very similar experience. He spent most of the “interview” ignoring me and doing work or screaming at his poor secretary to bring him documents (which she had to remind him were already on his desk). At one point he asked me to go locate his intern and bring the intern to his office. He then returned to ignoring me and yelled at the poor intern. Eventually he got around to reviewing my 20-page writing sample in 15 seconds, concluding, “this makes sense. I like it.” Fortunately, I got an offer from a different firm a couple days later, so I didn't have to pursue that “opportunity” any further. Unfortunately, I lost that job in Sept. and haven't had the slightest bit of luck since then. I guess he must have burned through whatever poor chump did take the job, since I started seeing his want ads around the time of your post. One other thing of interest: It came out during my interview that, while he may do IP cases, and advertises the job that way, his associate actually does little but personal injury cases.

]]> By: Ramon Esquire http://joblesslawyer.com/interview-with-the-oaf-the-worst-law-interview-ever/comment-page-1/#comment-323 Ramon Esquire Fri, 05 Mar 2010 22:36:28 +0000 http://joblesslawyer.com/?p=262#comment-323 you are a glutton for punishment. I once had an interview with panel of attorneys asking me what animal I identified with and how the characteristics of the animal related to the practice of law.<br><br>Needless to say, I told that I did not identify with piranhas or sharks, got up and left the interview.....<br><br>One of the women ran after me, but I told her to take a hike.<br><br>I have little tolerance for bullshit, and I do have that wicked latino temper!. you are a glutton for punishment. I once had an interview with panel of attorneys asking me what animal I identified with and how the characteristics of the animal related to the practice of law.

Needless to say, I told that I did not identify with piranhas or sharks, got up and left the interview…..

One of the women ran after me, but I told her to take a hike.

I have little tolerance for bullshit, and I do have that wicked latino temper!.

]]> By: chocolegal http://joblesslawyer.com/interview-with-the-oaf-the-worst-law-interview-ever/comment-page-1/#comment-238 chocolegal Thu, 17 Dec 2009 04:23:05 +0000 http://joblesslawyer.com/?p=262#comment-238 Your experience is hilarious. I know it wasn't very funny being interrogated by the OAF, at least you can laugh about it for many years to come. <br><br>Just goes to show you the job market right now. I've been at a Biglaw for 5 years, got let go last year and have not found a job since. I went on an interview recently, a solo practitioner ("solo") who said he did real estate litigation and closings on Craigslist. While the pay offered, $40k, regardless of experience, was offensive at best, I thought it couldn't hurt to work rather than not doing anything. While waiting in a conference room, during the 30 minutes waiting for the solo to arrive, I noticed that there was another woman in a suit cleaning out her office and asked the office manager if there were "other associates" and she said "that one" is leaving after working for 3 months. I guess this was a bad sign. Our eyes met and she gave me a funny smile. I chose to ignore this and focus on the interview.<br><br>He showed up 30 minutes after the scheduled interview time, said rather proudly that he's never in the office because he's always in landlord tenant court and thus, I would be doing all the research, writing, motions, briefs and additionally covering various courts in the Bronx and occasionally Queens. And oh, half the day I would be in courts and for the other half I'd be producing briefs and memos and that the sheer volume of the work was "hectic".<br><br>During the interview I highlighted my strengths, produced a brief for a motion on real estate litigation, but told that he only deals with landlord tenant and does not do closings. Maybe he had a conscience when he said not to be "fazed" by the "modest salary", there were opportunities for me to make another couple thousand after a raise a year after or so. Thought the interview went okay, I sent a thank you note. He emailed me and said he gave the position to another candidate but that he'd keep my resume "on file" just in case if "you'd like". Don't know what that means. Just in case this one decides to leave after working like a dog earning less than a legal secretary probably. Your experience is hilarious. I know it wasn't very funny being interrogated by the OAF, at least you can laugh about it for many years to come.

Just goes to show you the job market right now. I've been at a Biglaw for 5 years, got let go last year and have not found a job since. I went on an interview recently, a solo practitioner (“solo”) who said he did real estate litigation and closings on Craigslist. While the pay offered, $40k, regardless of experience, was offensive at best, I thought it couldn't hurt to work rather than not doing anything. While waiting in a conference room, during the 30 minutes waiting for the solo to arrive, I noticed that there was another woman in a suit cleaning out her office and asked the office manager if there were “other associates” and she said “that one” is leaving after working for 3 months. I guess this was a bad sign. Our eyes met and she gave me a funny smile. I chose to ignore this and focus on the interview.

He showed up 30 minutes after the scheduled interview time, said rather proudly that he's never in the office because he's always in landlord tenant court and thus, I would be doing all the research, writing, motions, briefs and additionally covering various courts in the Bronx and occasionally Queens. And oh, half the day I would be in courts and for the other half I'd be producing briefs and memos and that the sheer volume of the work was “hectic”.

During the interview I highlighted my strengths, produced a brief for a motion on real estate litigation, but told that he only deals with landlord tenant and does not do closings. Maybe he had a conscience when he said not to be “fazed” by the “modest salary”, there were opportunities for me to make another couple thousand after a raise a year after or so. Thought the interview went okay, I sent a thank you note. He emailed me and said he gave the position to another candidate but that he'd keep my resume “on file” just in case if “you'd like”. Don't know what that means. Just in case this one decides to leave after working like a dog earning less than a legal secretary probably.

]]> By: The Jobless Lawyer» Recession Job Search Tips for the Unemployed Lawyer- Creating a Job “Surge” http://joblesslawyer.com/interview-with-the-oaf-the-worst-law-interview-ever/comment-page-1/#comment-214 The Jobless Lawyer» Recession Job Search Tips for the Unemployed Lawyer- Creating a Job “Surge” Tue, 01 Dec 2009 22:51:48 +0000 http://joblesslawyer.com/?p=262#comment-214 [...] Solo Practice, NY (1 Point)- After waiting in an un-lit messy office while the interviewer ignored me and did work he had piling up from the day- a high stakes special task was designed to test my knowledge of obscure court rules.  I gave up any chance at a second round interview by giving this gentleman a piece of my mind in a sharp-witted e-mail response to his task. (Full Post) [...] [...] Solo Practice, NY (1 Point)- After waiting in an un-lit messy office while the interviewer ignored me and did work he had piling up from the day- a high stakes special task was designed to test my knowledge of obscure court rules.  I gave up any chance at a second round interview by giving this gentleman a piece of my mind in a sharp-witted e-mail response to his task. (Full Post) [...]

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